Latest "Current Strategy" Updates

by aybesea

So, as those who frequent this place know, I periodically post updates on my current IPTV strategy. I try to update these if and when I make changes. And so I am providing my updates.

My previous strategy required some changing up after Vader bit the big one and died. That meant that I needed to replace Vader, but also as a result of the shake up, two of my erstwhile solid providers are no longer very solid... Beast and Xstreamz.

Beast is the biggest loser with this update. My previous BEST server is now pretty much unwatchable and buffers a horrendous percentage of the time. It is not salvageable. Xstreamz, on the other hand, has simply started to give me headaches. But to clarify, I haven't had a clean night from them in a week. They are, therefore, also on the chopping block.

To remind people, my goal is NOT to have the cheapest set up. Rather, it is to be able to watch any and every US Sports or Premium event in 60fps FHD/HD when I choose to watch it. This could be NBA playoffs, Boxing PPV or GOT final episode... but I want perfect feeds every time. The fact that no one could possibly provide perfect feeds every time simply means that I need a collection of providers that between them, ponies up a perfect feed every time without having to go through "heroic measures". I also occasionally need the ability to have reliable Catchup feeds, particularly of MSNBC.

So, my current provider pool, after losing Beast and Xstreamz, looks like this:

  • Jarvis - Great 60fps FHD/HD feeds of pretty much every US Sports network, regional and premium feed. These guys are good and getting better. I buy this from u/jarvis912. ###note: it has been brought to my attention that Jarvis is actually a resell of Primestreams. Thank everyone who made me aware.
  • Helix - My absolute go to for Catchup now gets double duty providing backups to Jarvis for many Sports and network regionals. Helix sometimes includes several feeds, but only one is 60fps... so it takes a fair amount of jiggling the lineup to get this just right. But, many/most of my required 60fps FHD/HD feeds are here and stable.
  • Inferno - This was a new name to me that one of my trusted resellers (u/jcast356) brought to my attention. While the lineup is still in a little flux, it is clear that they offer some very nice feeds, particularly of US Sports. 60fps baby!
  • another TBD??? - Probably will need another service. The good news is that things got a lot cheaper with this latest incarnation. The bad news is that I still think it's a little bit incomplete/immature. I've looked at a few other services for this slot (Proton, Beams/BBTV, Twisted [see note below]), but I haven't found anything that really works. The other good news is that I have time to figure this out since my summer watching slump is currently kicking in (I just fucking hate baseball and golf!)

My Twisted note is that ever since the 28statemedia debacle occurred, I no longer feel very comfortable with Twisted. The fact that they "lost my account" in the sale is very bad. The fact that they made me eat a remaining 5 month sub is inexcusable. Bad juju there.

For those who kept accusing me of never saying bad things about providers, re-read this and eat your words... I simply state the truth (or my current and honest view of it) and really don't worry much about it. It all becomes transparent over time.

YOU CAN HELP ME... look at my desirements above. Look at what I have. Look at who I've liked (and why). Look at the "Not For Me" list below. Please help me figure out who belongs in the TBD box above! I would really love some ideas.

"Not For Me" - Providers that have not worked out for me along with reasons why...

Eternal, Area51, TNT, GE - all cheap services that work, and in some cases offer reasonable stability... but the picture isn't good (terrible frame rates) to the point that they give me a headache.

Twisted - see the note above

Beams - it isn't cheap, doesn't have great USA channel selection and mostly 30fps... but it is stable.

Gears / Epicstreams - High priced providers with terrible video quality. I don't understand the crack that y'all are smoking!

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A note to resellers/providers - Do NOT post a bunch of PM me links below without explaining WHY I should want your service in the context of my post above. Do NOT say contact me for pricing. Do NOT tell me to waste my time on your fucking product by taking a trial that may or may not even come close IF you can't even be bothered to read my post and explain your rationale. You guys shoot yourselves in the foot way, way, way better than I ever could!

freethinker13579

The earlier post could have been referring to DSTVhosting.com which I wrote about below. I think DS stands for Dedicated Server. Bottom line so far is this service is meeting my needs and looks like it might serve many of yours.

Unfortunately, I chose to subscribe to the MAG service option so I can only evaluate what I see using my particular emulator - STBemu (pro). What I see is high quality, stable streams.

I plan to switch to the M3U option at the end of my monthly subscription so I can look at their APPS and see if they implemented a good CATCHUP feature.

I have no horse in this race but I do think you should give them a look. $2.99 for a day trial. Definitely pick the M3U option.

mrstatic28

Appreciate the update! I had Vader and Beast and am now looking for a second one to compliment Beast, which can be shaky from time to time. Same deal for me, mainly sports. Gonna test out Helix soon...

skinnykid108

Beast has been ok with me... buffering seems the same as in the past

Now..the EPG has been terrible

maheanuu

So Kenny, please get my service straight, I'm paying for this, don't tell me that I'm complaining on any other IPTV service that I use. I'm complaining when resseler don't do their job.

Frilock101

Thank you!!!!!! Finally the truth about Beast and Vader is exposed honestly vader was good at one point then it became trash!! Then I got onto beast and for a little while it was ok I wouldn't say great but now it's just unwatchable for me !!! Appreciate your post man keep it up!!!

kaz78601

Try sportztv, they have their own apk basic one but I use it through tivimate, have a telegram helpchat where the admins are really decent, no looking down at “newbie” questions which sounds fairly mundane but is actually a real plus point imo

Channel selection is vast, have usually 2 feeds of the main sport channels and very decent picture, I personally don’t mind if it’s not 50fps as long as it’s working well but they do have plenty of 50fps channels, plenty of 24/7 channels and a vast vod section with some catch up as-well

Legion123abc

Good writeup. Thanks for sharing.

moehio

You lost me at MSNBC.

Frilock101

Thank you!!!!!! Finally the truth about Beast and Vader is exposed honestly vader was good at one point then it became trash!! Then I got onto beast and for a little while it was ok I wouldn't say great but now it's just unwatchable for me !!! Appreciate your post man keep it up!!!

Frilock101

Thank you!!!!!! Finally the truth about Beast and Vader is exposed honestly vader was good at one point then it became trash!! Then I got onto beast and for a little while it was ok I wouldn't say great but now it's just unwatchable for me !!! Appreciate your post man keep it up!!!

Frilock101

Thank you!!!!!! Finally the truth about Beast and Vader is exposed honestly vader was good at one point then it became trash!! Then I got onto beast and for a little while it was ok I wouldn't say great but now it's just unwatchable for me !!! Appreciate your post man keep it up!!!

Frilock101

Thank you!!!!!! Finally the truth about Beast and Vader is exposed honestly vader was good at one point then it became trash!! Then I got onto beast and for a little while it was ok I wouldn't say great but now it's just unwatchable for me !!! Appreciate your post man keep it up!!!

Frilock101

Thank you!!!!!! Finally the truth about Beast and Vader is exposed honestly vader was good at one point then it became trash!! Then I got onto beast and for a little while it was ok I wouldn't say great but now it's just unwatchable for me !!! Appreciate your post man keep it up!!!

Frilock101

Thank you!!!!!! Finally the truth about Beast and Vader is exposed honestly vader was good at one point then it became trash!! Then I got onto beast and for a little while it was ok I wouldn't say great but now it's just unwatchable for me !!! Appreciate your post man keep it up!!!

Frilock101

Thank you!!!!!! Finally the truth about Beast and Vader is exposed honestly vader was good at one point then it became trash!! Then I got onto beast and for a little while it was ok I wouldn't say great but now it's just unwatchable for me !!! Appreciate your post man keep it up!!!

Frilock101

Thank you!!!!!! Finally the truth about Beast and Vader is exposed honestly vader was good at one point then it became trash!! Then I got onto beast and for a little while it was ok I wouldn't say great but now it's just unwatchable for me !!! Appreciate your post man keep it up!!!

Greencon10

You realize you never bought your Twisted account directly through Twisted themselves, right? 28statemedia was a reseller, and while the situation was indeed a crapshow ( I initially got burned as well, and it was my review on them that I know led a lot of people to buy it), at the end of the day it does highlight the the extra layer of risk involved every time people decide to buy from a reseller (usually to chase a better deal) instead of buying through the actual source.

I mean half these recommendations you keep putting up are resellers, and are "official" in surface title only. They aren't the ones running the show or footing the keep-things-up-and-running bills. If Jarvis gets busted tomorrow for example, or freaks out for whatever reason and deletes his panel in some attempt to cover his tracks, there is no real guarantee that the service he is simply reselling is going to remake those hundreds or thousands of accounts he's handing out. On random request with a receipt that wasn't paid to them, and for free at that. Especially in the event Jarvis is running with an unlimited reseller panel, in which a lot of those accounts the actual owners of the service themselves essentially didn't make a literal dime on after a certain point.

The actual owner of Twisted may have not re-made all those accounts at the full special connection deal rate, but he did remake every single one of those to my knowledge that had a receipt to prove purchase, and with a 1 connection plan that was extended to 3 months I believe. All on his own dime at that, as 28statemedia also skipped out on the bill for all those accounts to him as well.

Which was a super stand up move in my book in the face of a pretty dang crappy situation, and one I wouldn't genuinely expect many out there to ultimately do. So to say they aren't "trustworthy", over a reseller burning you, is a pretty inaccurate evaluation of what really went down.

Frilock101

Thank you!!!!!! Finally the truth about Beast and Vader is exposed honestly vader was good at one point then it became trash!! Then I got onto beast and for a little while it was ok I wouldn't say great but now it's just unwatchable for me !!! Appreciate your post man keep it up!!!

Frilock101

Thank you!!!!!! Finally the truth about Beast and Vader is exposed honestly vader was good at one point then it became trash!! Then I got onto beast and for a little while it was ok I wouldn't say great but now it's just unwatchable for me !!! Appreciate your post man keep it up!!!

Frilock101

Thank you!!!!!! Finally the truth about Beast and Vader is exposed honestly vader was good at one point then it became trash!! Then I got onto beast and for a little while it was ok I wouldn't say great but now it's just unwatchable for me !!! Appreciate your post man keep it up!!!

Frilock101

Thank you!!!!!! Finally the truth about Beast and Vader is exposed honestly vader was good at one point then it became trash!! Then I got onto beast and for a little while it was ok I wouldn't say great but now it's just unwatchable for me !!! Appreciate your post man keep it up!!!

Geo217

Would it be fair to say no service reliably does US and UK together?

badleaders

From this list i only use Helix and iptvclouds , what is the link of inferno ?

scrubguy

What do you think would be the best backup service for $5-10 per month? US /sports /PPV based content

AlexterWeb

Try fire tv streams. You'll see.

MeekMillMorty

I think Beast is the real deal and probably just suffering from the influx of refugees. Have you tried BBtv? I haven’t either, but one of the resellers you mentioned carries them and I believe they’re highly recommended for sports.

sbgagne

Might be worth giving Vipre a try. Up and coming . $15 USD a month but 8 connections. Reliable. Building a catch-up section. I had Vaders which sucked other than having five connections and match centre

ratraget

Try it out Prick

ratraget

Ds streams